(From L to R) Director of the Office of the Foreign Affairs Commission of the Communist Party of China’s Central Committee Wang Yi, Indonesia’s Foreign Minister Retno Marsudi, Malaysia’s Foreign Minister Zambry Abdul Kadir and Brunei’s Second Minister of Foreign Affairs Erywan Yusof talk during the ASEAN Post Ministerial Conference with China in Jakarta on July 13, 2023. (Photo by Tatan Syuflana / POOL / AFP)